Comments on: Beyoncé’s Black Is King Celebrates The Black Diaspora By Reinventing The Lion King https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/ The world's best music blog. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 16:03:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.1 By: Asoul47 https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890918 Tue, 04 Aug 2020 16:03:56 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890918 sounds like a good, positive uplifting film. maybe i’ll check it out.

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By: funnytimes https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890713 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 22:31:00 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890713 In reply to funnytimes.

What is pushed to the greys here is expression, is fairness, is reasonable, is curiosity, is truth

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By: PhoenixReborn https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890645 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:35:31 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890645 In reply to krazen.

I’m glad you mentioned the last paragraph. I think Noname doesn’t realize she perpetuating the idea of burden black women having to be the backbone of the black community without taking in account their mental or physical limitations. It’s also a blindspot where we expect black entertainers to be leaders and ignoring actual social activists.

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By: krazen https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890601 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:39:25 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890601 In reply to artboat.

It redeems itself in long form; any short ‘trailer’ would just look like a hodgepodge of Africa (c) Nas in Belly and in its full version its a respectful, artful representation of various cultures on and off the continent (with many appearances on and off screen by people from those cultures)

That said, she’s not above critique; this is a film and soundtrack made for a Disney corporation and everyone involved is about adding zero’s to their bank accounts.

Overall though, imho it’s unfair to ask Beyonce to fix capitalism (and neither would I want to) and other social ills…it’s an arthouse movie with a kickass soundtrack. As someone who had to sit through many similar movies by old white guys; ya Baz Lauchmann’s on the musical side, ya Terrence Malick on the ‘these random scenes are supposed to represent one story’, I don’t get why we can’t just let Beyonce cook, and this is from someone who’s not her biggest fan.

its interesting once again we are asking a black woman to do all the fucking work (sing, dance, also must serve as a visual component to Das Kapital) while your random white popstar can just be a popstar.

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By: schmow town https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890571 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:11:12 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890571 In reply to artboat.

aren’t most albums, visual or otherwise, made with at least one of the main goals to hopefully add another zero to your bank account?

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By: 123ForMe https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890559 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:48:31 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890559 In reply to artboat.

Have you watched or are you basing your opinion off of what detractors said BEFORE it even came out? Africa is shown in every facet in this movie. Also, many Africans critiqued Noname for speaking for them. The film is beautiful and heartfelt and you need to watch it before judgement.

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By: funnytimes https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890549 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:34:50 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890549 What is pushed to the forefront here is beauty, is character, is rhythm, is precision, is glory

ok what is with this sentence can someone explain

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By: 123ForMe https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890547 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:33:45 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890547 In reply to log.

Lol at the time I wrote the comment there wasn’t a post about Black is King. There was a post about the release of the Already video.

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By: artboat https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890454 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:29:22 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890454 There needs to be a real conversation about how many, many people in the African community are annoyed or out and out enraged at this. Stereogum favorite Noname is also up in arms over it.

The argument being made, and one that I think is worth considering, is that Beyonce is using African imagery and culture in the same way that oppressor’s have been doing for centuries: otherizing it and using it as a means towards commodification. To say nothing of the fact she’s reinforcing centuries old stereotypes on top of it all. I’ve seen a few hot takes calling Black is King “Wakanda bullshit” and first glance, it’s hard not to see it that way.

I’m a deeply cynical person as it is but it’s very hard to see this as anything other than Beyonce trying to add another zero to her bank account. Maybe the message is in the right place, but it comes across as shallow at best and completely capitalistically vapid at worst.

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By: eatyrghost https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890353 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:13:09 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890353 In reply to max power.

So The Lion King: The Gift came out last year, and mixes songs and (the CGI remake of The Lion King) film dialogue snippets.

The Lion King: The Gift Deluxe Edition strips out the dialogue, and adds an extra song or two, and is intended more as the soundtrack to this visual album. I don’t stream; I bought it on iTunes.

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By: max power https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890305 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 15:37:41 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890305 So is this an album your average person can listen to anywhere? Or is it purely a visual album/film that is exclusive to one streaming service?

I have nothing against Beyonce and her music, but these kind of big, prestigy, concept type releases can be so tiring.

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By: Adam Smith Riggs https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890256 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 15:04:41 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890256 In reply to eatyrghost.

I think the film/visual album will have some folks reassessing the album for sure. I get why it was received lukewarmly last year but it has bops. I think the so-called “Deluxe Edition” released on Friday will help too with the addition of “Black Parade” and the subtraction of the Lion King dialogue samples (though these too largely worked better in the visual album).

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By: armsagainstatrophy https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890229 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:42:49 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890229 In reply to spoonman.

i dont think you’re alone. the disney+ release really limits it’s audience, on top of the fact that the lion king film and soundtrack were…let’s say received lukewarmly. no one even seems to want to pirate it the way they did lemonade.

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By: eatyrghost https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890201 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:13:19 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890201 As someone with zero interest in the Lion King remake, I didn’t know what to expect of this, but I can’t recommend it enough. The visuals throughout are sumptuous, the costume design takes influence from many different cultures that rarely make it through to pop videos, and there are some bona fide bops from Bey and her collaborators (I’ve had ‘Find Your Way Back’ and ‘Brown-Skinned Girl’ trapped in my brain all weekend). The story gets a little lost in the pomp occasionally, but I was more than okay with that as my senses were being bombarded the whole time anyway.

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By: LowFlyingHammock https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890198 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:11:38 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890198 Supremacy obliteration, but make it transcendent.

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By: spoonman https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890193 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:07:06 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890193 In reply to spoonman.

The main “lesson of The Lion King (2019)” would seem, to me, to be that we can’t animate photorealistic animals without giving them dead eyes yet.

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By: spoonman https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890190 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:05:52 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890190 I know Beyoncé’s been responsible for some of the most discussed/celebrated musical artifacts of the 2010s, but something about the written synopsis of this project – “This visual album from Beyoncé reimagines the lessons of ‘The Lion King’ (2019) for today’s young kings and queens in search of their own crowns” – makes me think I’ll be fine taking a mulligan on this round of pop cultural jury duty.

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By: log https://www.stereogum.com/2093510/beyonce-black-is-king-review/reviews/movie-review/#comment-20890185 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:02:44 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2093510#comment-20890185 I can’t believe there’s a post on this website about Lana Del Rey’s mediocre poetry, but no post about Black is King.

Oh…wait.

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