Comments on: When The Party’s Over: Unpacking An Exceptionally Grim Grammys https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/ The world's best music blog. Tue, 14 Apr 2020 00:28:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.1 By: theGARLIC https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20783365 Wed, 29 Jan 2020 02:38:45 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20783365 The only good thing to come of this year’s awards is Tyler the Creator’s post-win statements.

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By: BanksyWasFramed https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782968 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:24:13 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782968 In reply to cokeparty.

It was an obvious pandering after last year’s “women step up” fiasco.

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By: BanksyWasFramed https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782967 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:22:53 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782967 In reply to unknown.

Batshit, too long, and a total mess of a film. But some really beautiful shots of forest.

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By: Rambling Lisztomaniac https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782891 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:29:39 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782891 In reply to spiritualize.

I wanted to specifically see that during that performance, but it was too cringe to pay attention throughout and i missed it.

… Someone will gif it

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782826 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 04:10:17 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782826 In reply to timescreamer.

And his behind the armor of positive empowerment. It’s not a wonderful thing if you use it to distract from your more assholish tendencies.

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782822 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 03:54:59 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782822 In reply to dad.

people decided Lizzo sucked when she doxxed her postmates delivery guy, said music critics shouldn’t have jobs, and decided not to give credit to people who helped write her songs.

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By: dad https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782804 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 01:58:36 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782804

Lizzo’s opening medley was a reminder that she was charming and wildly talented long before she started to feel like a cliché.

Crazy how quickly so many people have decided that Lizzo is uncool. In March Chris wrote that she was “a full-fledged star. A charismatic presence capable of nailing glory notes, hitting her steps, and unfurling nasty flute solos, she’s both unique and uniquely accessible. If radio stations ever figure out ‘Juice’ belongs in heavy rotation, watch out. Actually, watch out either way. Lizzo cannot be contained.” I don’t even think she’s put out any new music between then and now.

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By: Number 3 Dad https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782772 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:45:14 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782772 Two comments:
First, Alicia Keys is a terrible host. Her “vibe” (her word) is irritating. She needs to stop saying things are “all love”, because they are not. I miss LL Cool J licking his lips every couple of minutes and saying “music’s biggest night”. Never thought I’d say that.
Second, so Billie Eilish won a bunch of awards? Listen, I lived through Another Day In Paradise, Tears in Heaven, and Change the World. I LIVED THROUGH THEM. It was not that long ago that Lady Antebellum won. It’s true. So let Billie Eilish win some awards (and give a rest to the “another white girl” slant). It could be a lot worse. Trust me.

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782737 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:42:02 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782737 In reply to timescreamer.

Oh absolutely. I’m sure someone out there committed a terrible crime after listening to Shinedown.

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By: spaceghost https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782734 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:37:24 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782734 In reply to roland1824.

If you really want to know it’s probably hyphenated. shit-show.

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782694 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:05:43 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782694 In reply to cappie the dog.

The last book I remember seeing on there was “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” way back in 2007. It’s been a dark time since then.

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782691 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:01:11 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782691 Was anyone else sad that “Old Town Road” did not get Record of the Year?

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782675 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:39:56 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782675 In reply to marko.

A full record of U2 collabs, plz.

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782674 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:38:59 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782674 In reply to timescreamer.

“…a record completely on their own with no rules…”

I feel certain this must be the most acclaimed bedroom album ever? Two kids with a laptop in their bedroom, using all of pop music as a template for ripping up the rules, I’m all for it.

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782673 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:36:33 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782673 In reply to dansolo.

I think the closest they’ve come to awarding the most critically acclaimed album was just last year (sorry, 2018) when Golden Hour was very highly rated and ranked in year-end lists and won AOTY, which was seen as a rare thing.

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By: Analogbrat https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782669 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:33:21 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782669 In reply to Max the King of All Wild Things.

Both and Finneas’ reactions in the above video speak volumes about their levity (at least at surface level):
Billie: “please don’t be me”
Announcer: “BILLIE EILISH”
Finneas: *fuck, kill me…*
Billie: *URGH*

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782649 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:02:40 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782649 In reply to _Shyguy95_.

do a shy guy from mario. easy

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782644 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:55:06 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782644 In reply to _Shyguy95_.

I believe in you.

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782643 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:54:40 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782643 In reply to cappie the dog.

The Thin Place was a great book I used Metacritic to discover.

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782634 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:40:31 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782634 In reply to dUb-iLL.

legend

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By: cappie the dog https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782615 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:22:44 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782615 In reply to cokeparty.

Remember when Metacritic briefly aggregated books?

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By: unknown https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782612 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:14:52 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782612 In reply to BanksyWasFramed.

batshit, wasn’t it?

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By: _Shyguy95_ https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782608 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:06:40 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782608 In reply to cokeparty.

I’m very indecisive when it comes to these kinds of decisions.

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782603 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:02:02 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782603 In reply to _Shyguy95_.

If avatars weren’t easy to get, I’d not have to remind you.

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782602 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:00:21 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782602 In reply to dUb-iLL.

Interesting.

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782600 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:59:26 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782600 In reply to timescreamer.

Oh, you’re using the old oxford bible translation. Thanks man!

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By: dUb-iLL https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782594 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:48:41 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782594 In reply to cokeparty.

Email Sean Agnew, cp. He gets shit done.

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By: BanksyWasFramed https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782587 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:40:41 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782587 In reply to unknown.

I saw it Saturday!

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By: _Shyguy95_ https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782580 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:35:39 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782580 In reply to dansolo.

I will be the first to admit that I can’t shut up about Poptimism but I would definitely not call it a micro-trend when it significantly altered the editorial direction of most internet music publications that survived this decade.

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By: _Shyguy95_ https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782574 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:29:16 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782574 In reply to Seph.

Poptimism went too far in like 2015. People want to be comfortable now and you are a bad person if you dare to suggest that people leave their comfort zone, whether it be in music taste or snack foods.

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By: _Shyguy95_ https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782567 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:26:16 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782567 In reply to timescreamer.

Yup. The grammys would pretty much have to be an entirely different institution if they had the capacity to acknowledge an artist like that.

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By: _Shyguy95_ https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782561 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:23:20 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782561 I too would like David Berman to at least be mentioned at the grammy just like I wish the 1996 Telecommunications act could be erased from history. If wishes were horses poor men would ride.

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782549 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:16:53 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782549 In reply to cokeparty.

you?

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782544 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:14:57 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782544 In reply to bigzman34.

100%. it’s possible however for someone like Billie (mainstream, radio pop) to touch someone in a way like a i,i or purple mountains would.

see Lorde’s Melodrama

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782540 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:10:51 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782540 In reply to dansolo.

you wrote a whole lot and I have to say Dan – i really enjoy talking with you because you seriously engage with people on this site – but still have fun.

i do not think independent musicians are entitled to coverage by independent music journalism, however – i think indie music journalism needs to think long and hard about the coverage they provide to musicians who are not independent and don’t necessarily need the coverage. i guess to a certain degree this can sound like an indirect way of saying indie musicians are entitled to that coverage but i digress. p4k recently re-reviewed (and i want to point out, rather favorably) all of Taylor Swift’s discography just before thanksgiving of 2019. taylor swift is selling out arenas, and has a netflix movie premiering at Sundance. she doesn’t need pitchfork to go back and revise the criticism they already published.

i also think that just because some one is commercially huge, non-indie, whatever-you-want-to-call-it, doesn’t mean they can’t make critically, culturally and commercially important records. you cite Kanye, and I agree that he does not need any help from any press and that he can check the box on all 3 of those types of importance with a couple of his records.

most importantly, the whole idea of poptism doesn’t relate to the coverage of artists that I say is good vs not good, (i actually thought that was rockism) but moreso with the evaluation of what’s currently the taste of the *average* music fan. the average music fan’s music taste can be great, but it also narrow and extremely specific, dominated by artists with far more resources with forces who are primarily trying to make money, with pushing the boundaries of art a secondary objective.

i don’t think any artist/genre/etc. from a journalistic perspective is worth covering than another, but awarding music that can block out other music with trophies and declarations of ‘record of the year’ – that’s not good IMO.

And btw, i’m not a billie eilish fan – but i do think she represents a future where someone can make a record completely on their own with no rules and nobody to answer to, and have it be the biggest and most celebrated record out there. And that’s a good thing.

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By: roland1824 https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782518 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:56:27 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782518 Two words: Shit show. Or is it one word? Shitshow?

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By: cokeparty https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782496 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:41:19 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782496 In reply to timescreamer.

Who is CP?

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By: THEREALARKITOOTHUS https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/comment-page-2/#comment-20782482 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:34:36 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782482 The Grammy’s always suck. Always.

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By: timescreamer https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782471 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:30:00 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782471 In reply to cokeparty.

can confirm that CP is really, really good-looking

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By: Bobby_Draper https://www.stereogum.com/2071321/grammys-2020-recap/reviews/tv-review/#comment-20782444 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:16:46 +0000 https://www.stereogum.com/?p=2071321#comment-20782444 In reply to AmericanFoosball.

He got a huge pop from the crowd and my guy was looking shredding. So much fun and so many potential dream matches you can run with him at Wrestlemania this year.

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